There have been very good reasons to protest, right?
It is not possible that donors paid 8 million people $35.50 each to protest.
It is not possible that 8 million people protested because they were ordered to do so.
What happened was the largest public protest in US history. In a democracy this is one of the most important uses of free speech, and it should happen more often. The current Executive Branch and much of Congress are evil supporters of genocide and child rape, and are also robber barons, much like those at the turn of the 20th century. It's ridiculous that only 8 million protested.
It is not possible that donors paid 8 million people $35.50 each to protest.
Why not?
If you're transporting anything on the stage, equipment rentals, drivers, cooks, food, designers, posters, T-shirts, banners, police, bribes, payola, social media, whatever - it all fucking adds up. Even if the protesters don't get a penny, every button, pin, pen, clip-thing, postit, coffee, creamer, donunt, etc. etc. etc. has a cost and value. And that's far from all of it. If it doesn't need to be done, then you can try to herd cats and volunteers to do it. If it demands being done right, you have to pay for it.
Lazy people still watch TV. Countless are brainwashed. Heavily. In a myriad of ways.
People can "protest" in any number of controlled rallies and events where folks release steam but accomplish nothing - as designed.
stage, equipment rentals, drivers, cooks, food, designers, posters, T-shirts, banners, police, bribes, payola, social media, whatever - it all fucking adds up. Even if the protesters don't get a penny, every button, pin, pen, clip-thing, postit, coffee, creamer, donunt, etc. etc. etc.
Almost none of that was provided at 99% of the protests. I've attended them and know people merely make announcements on the state building's steps, and then continue walking down the street. If someone wants to set up a coffee van, that's a normal thing to do at weekend markets, and they might show up at a protest, but people pay them for the coffee. It's not funded.
Claiming that people protest because they are paid is a lame attempt to discredit their reasons for protest, and says a lot about the evil actions funded by wealthy handlers and their Executive Branch, Supreme Court, GOP and a few old Dems. It's also a fragile response to the protestor and an attempt to support an authoritarian distopia. What will those authoritarians do for their supporters? Nothing that's helpful. They will feed on the 99% and hoard the money. It's what they do. Protests are authentic, very important responses in a democracy. Authoritarians should get the same treatment they received during the French Revolution. They are destroying the US.
Because you haven't noticed doesn't mean those things aren't done.
I've seen lots of it. Just the other day I got lots of Conservative schwag.
I make lots of schwag, as I did at Burning Man. Now it's business cards and buttons and magnets to "Protect Freedom" or "Protect Children". I'd do bigger stuff if I had funding.
I've been to all sorts of protests and political events and actions.
Some very well funded, many not.
Most folks are NOT in the big funding loop. By design.
Grift happens. Bigly.
I bet "I'll pay you $1M to run a protest that only costs $1K" happens all the time. Just like grants, VC investments, other "funding" and "markets", etc.
Pretending like that isn't likely or possible is naive at best and disingenuous at worst when people are being murdered, poisoned, exploited, propagandized, and suppressed (all expensive too) by the military industrial corporatocracy all over the world.
Claiming that people protest because they are paid
I didn't say that.
But clearly many do.
Especially those who get bussed around by Soros.
Protests are authentic
Not all of them.
And not all people know it.
The Windsor bridge "blockade" did not start organically - but it grew organically.
We also know of a heavily funded disinformation network that spreads lies that are easy to debunk with simple logic and evidence. Part of that evidence is that 8 MILLION PEOPLE protested.
Of the numerous places that had protestors, let's say that 200 hundred of them had paid organizers (though again, without any evidence), did people protest because of the organizers or because of direct payments? No.
Because this is a baseless claim, you would know that proof of its basis never existed.
So, you are correct, I would not prove something that never existed (millions of paid protestors) somehow existed.
What's weak and arguably evil is any support for MAGAt propaganda that tries to discredit protestors who are speaking truth against the worst US government since the turn of the 20th century. (I would think you don't support MAGAts.)
Isn't it odd to pay people to protest in general? It is a thing. And paying a protestor $35.50 is on the low end. Very low end. Try $200. I looked into it because getting paid to go on a hike sounds like getting paid to do something I do anyway. Just tune out the people around you and enjoy the air. It turns out these gigs pay quite a bit because you are effectively on set. They do "talent" recruitment the same way you'd do a casting call. Don't you think that's kind of weird.
Got a source?
There have been very good reasons to protest, right?
It is not possible that donors paid 8 million people $35.50 each to protest.
It is not possible that 8 million people protested because they were ordered to do so.
What happened was the largest public protest in US history. In a democracy this is one of the most important uses of free speech, and it should happen more often. The current Executive Branch and much of Congress are evil supporters of genocide and child rape, and are also robber barons, much like those at the turn of the 20th century. It's ridiculous that only 8 million protested.
Why not?
If you're transporting anything on the stage, equipment rentals, drivers, cooks, food, designers, posters, T-shirts, banners, police, bribes, payola, social media, whatever - it all fucking adds up. Even if the protesters don't get a penny, every button, pin, pen, clip-thing, postit, coffee, creamer, donunt, etc. etc. etc. has a cost and value. And that's far from all of it. If it doesn't need to be done, then you can try to herd cats and volunteers to do it. If it demands being done right, you have to pay for it.
Lazy people still watch TV. Countless are brainwashed. Heavily. In a myriad of ways.
People can "protest" in any number of controlled rallies and events where folks release steam but accomplish nothing - as designed.
Almost none of that was provided at 99% of the protests. I've attended them and know people merely make announcements on the state building's steps, and then continue walking down the street. If someone wants to set up a coffee van, that's a normal thing to do at weekend markets, and they might show up at a protest, but people pay them for the coffee. It's not funded.
Claiming that people protest because they are paid is a lame attempt to discredit their reasons for protest, and says a lot about the evil actions funded by wealthy handlers and their Executive Branch, Supreme Court, GOP and a few old Dems. It's also a fragile response to the protestor and an attempt to support an authoritarian distopia. What will those authoritarians do for their supporters? Nothing that's helpful. They will feed on the 99% and hoard the money. It's what they do. Protests are authentic, very important responses in a democracy. Authoritarians should get the same treatment they received during the French Revolution. They are destroying the US.
Because you haven't noticed doesn't mean those things aren't done.
I've seen lots of it. Just the other day I got lots of Conservative schwag.
I make lots of schwag, as I did at Burning Man. Now it's business cards and buttons and magnets to "Protect Freedom" or "Protect Children". I'd do bigger stuff if I had funding.
I've been to all sorts of protests and political events and actions.
Some very well funded, many not.
Most folks are NOT in the big funding loop. By design.
Grift happens. Bigly.
I bet "I'll pay you $1M to run a protest that only costs $1K" happens all the time. Just like grants, VC investments, other "funding" and "markets", etc.
Pretending like that isn't likely or possible is naive at best and disingenuous at worst when people are being murdered, poisoned, exploited, propagandized, and suppressed (all expensive too) by the military industrial corporatocracy all over the world.
I didn't say that.
But clearly many do.
Especially those who get bussed around by Soros.
Not all of them.
And not all people know it.
The Windsor bridge "blockade" did not start organically - but it grew organically.
Groovy.
We also know of a heavily funded disinformation network that spreads lies that are easy to debunk with simple logic and evidence. Part of that evidence is that 8 MILLION PEOPLE protested.
Of the numerous places that had protestors, let's say that 200 hundred of them had paid organizers (though again, without any evidence), did people protest because of the organizers or because of direct payments? No.
We know all of our input is a mix of truth and lies.
People who say, "There are no big secret conspiracies because we'd know about it," are fallacious and retarded.
It's not easy to suss out evidence or find the truths, much less be certain of anything.
You can't prove that and you don't know that.
Your certainty makes your arguments weak.
Because this is a baseless claim, you would know that proof of its basis never existed.
So, you are correct, I would not prove something that never existed (millions of paid protestors) somehow existed.
What's weak and arguably evil is any support for MAGAt propaganda that tries to discredit protestors who are speaking truth against the worst US government since the turn of the 20th century. (I would think you don't support MAGAts.)
Isn't it odd to pay people to protest in general? It is a thing. And paying a protestor $35.50 is on the low end. Very low end. Try $200. I looked into it because getting paid to go on a hike sounds like getting paid to do something I do anyway. Just tune out the people around you and enjoy the air. It turns out these gigs pay quite a bit because you are effectively on set. They do "talent" recruitment the same way you'd do a casting call. Don't you think that's kind of weird.
Background actors.
And $200 isn't anything to sneeze at for easy work.
There is no evidence anyone was paid to protest.
There are however many problems with the spread of disinformation that protestors were paid.